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Postby CunningSmile » 07 Oct 2010, 11:35

Bought it. Played it. Loved it. Played it a second time.

I have no issues whatsoever with the pricing. So what if it's free to the PC? I don't have a PC because I couldn't justify the much larger initial cost of a good gaming PC versus a console. We all pay sooner or later.
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Postby pauloselhombre » 07 Oct 2010, 14:16

Well, I bought the DLC, and it's good, but not THAT good. I'm not sure that valve realise that the nostalgia the L4D2 players feel towards L4D1 isn't just because of the characters. L4D2 really lacks the atmosphere of the first game, mainly down to being too hectice in comparison. By throwing so many special infected at the player, it's become somewhat of a generic action game. The Passing's campaign was a step in the right direction (well, at points it was anyway), but the relative openness of the L4D 2 maps takes away any feeling of claustraphobia that the original had. Plus, the southernifying of the music really doesn't help.

What is really needed rather than just throwing the original survivors into the game (although that is very welcome), is an overhaul of the AI director, to make it play for tension, much like the 1st game. In L4D, I often found myself approaching a doorway only for it to explode as a horde storms through. And hordes seemed scary back then. Now, in L4D2, there are so many zombies all over the place that the horde has lost all meaning, and the AI director throws them in at pretty random times and locations.

Plus, the Tank was actually scary back when the game didn't throw them at you all the time. Oh, and the Witch pretty much loses any effect at all when the maps make it waaay to easy to go around her.
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Postby delmariachi » 07 Oct 2010, 15:24

I eventually bought L4D2 on PC as the game has ten times the longevity it ever did on 360. I got bored after a while, Yet now I have some 20 plus user made campaigns, character skins (currently have the two guys from Army Of Two, Lara Croft and Gordon Freeman), improved sound effects and better looking weapons, Binford Chainsaw? Jack Daniels molotovs? Gold Desert Eagle? you got it! and bonus of bonuses its all FREE thanks to the community lead content. That and I can still play my mates in co-op and vs.

You could this week buy L4D and L4D2 for just over 7 quid (finishes today), with all dlc for free... its crazy, and the fact that 360 users are getting pretty burned for it by having to pay is vastly unfair, if I didn't have the option of PC (which incidentally doesn't have to be that powerful to run it, mines 4 years old), i'd be cussing MS big time!!
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Postby Spiderless » 07 Oct 2010, 19:50

I remember the same thing happening with the old L4D DLC, Valve (apparently) wanted it to be free but Microsoft wouldn't let them, I think MS take a bit of the profit from DLC so that explains why it is not free on LIVE but is on Steam.
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Postby Funkcase » 07 Oct 2010, 21:27

I dont beleve this crap Valve are saying tbh, Bioware managed just fine in giving us a good amount of free dlc :roll: I've lost all respect I once had for Valve this past two years.
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Postby Spiderless » 07 Oct 2010, 23:32

Funkcase wrote:I dont beleve this crap Valve are saying tbh, Bioware managed just fine in giving us a good amount of free dlc :roll: I've lost all respect I once had for Valve this past two years.


Bioware gave out free DLC?

And at least the price is only 540, most games charge 800.
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Postby lordsemimaru » 08 Oct 2010, 09:24

kinda like in team fortress 2 pc gets loads of dlc and a great game 360 gets a broken piece of crap
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Postby Spiderless » 08 Oct 2010, 10:32

I'm sounding like a horrible Valve fanboy here, but I do like them so nevermind.

Valve have admitted they failed with the 360 version of TF2 but have you seen the sheer scale of updates the PC version gets? A normal 360 update (not DLC) is only a few KB, on the PC TF2 frequently has updates of over 100MB sometimes stretching into 1GB, there is just no way Microsoft would allow that much free data to be handed out (I guess it could have been given out as DLC but even that would probably be 10GB or more). A great deal of the TF2 updates have bugs that are fixed with yet more updates which brings in more bugs etc, etc.


For anybody who doesn't know:

1KB (kilobyte) = 1000bytes
1MB (megabyte) = 1000KB
1GB (gigabyte) = 1000MB
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Postby muttznutz » 08 Oct 2010, 15:38

Actually 1024 of each
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Postby Spiderless » 08 Oct 2010, 19:30

muttznutz wrote:Actually 1024 of each


Smart arse :lol:
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Postby Stewb » 08 Oct 2010, 21:27

muttznutz wrote:Actually 1024 of each


Actually you are thinking of kibi, mebi and gibibytes.
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Postby Baryonyx » 09 Oct 2010, 16:07

I won't be buying it. The Passing is arguably the best campaign in L4D2 but even then it was pretty naff compared to the dark, claustrophobic and imaginative designs of the first L4D. Glad I got it cheap as it was far from amazing.
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