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Next gen Kinect: Microsoft hiring for fancy 3D imaging work,

Postby bamozzy » 24 Jul 2012, 14:03

I do think it is funny that Kinect as a Technology is superb and it will soon have greater depth perception - is that to make up for its lack of depth in its games!!

All this capability but its best application so far has been 'voice' commands!

I will say that it is better than Move and Wii mote in dancing and fitness 'games' but not being a fan of these it is quite limited. I have also used the Kinect feature for Forza but that does all the breaking and accelerating for you - I much prefer the controller. In general I prefer the controller to navigate the dashboard too but the Voice commands are quite useful too - especially for searching and video controls!

Kinect will forever be more of a Novelty (unless you do play a lot of dance and fitness games) until we get some games of greater substance - We need games of quality and for hardcore (not casual) 'gamers'
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Postby msbhvn » 24 Jul 2012, 18:30

The biggest problem with Kinect is that MS cheaped out on the components, meaning it's crap for anything that requires precision. Kinect 2.0 on the Gertrude will have better cameras and more/dedicated processing power in the console, meaning that more complex Kinect control systems can be used in better games. Kinect being supplied with the console will mean the devs can rely on every Gertrude owner having a Kinect, something that isn't the case now.

Voice commands have been thrown into games so that the publishers can get money from MS to put the "better with Kinect" bar on the game case, like ME3 did. You can bet the re-release of Skyrim with all the DLC will have the bar on it, since the Kinect Shouts were a post release update.
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Postby darkknight1234 » 24 Jul 2012, 19:42

Kinect was always a waste of time, and people bought into it due to hype and the fact that this is america.


Kinect has no original or unique game application

Its a glorified microphone and headset
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Postby jimlad4 » 24 Jul 2012, 20:47

darkknight1234 wrote: this is america.

No it's not...
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Postby msbhvn » 24 Jul 2012, 22:17

jimlad4 wrote:
darkknight1234 wrote: this is america.

No it's not...


The US OXM site needs to change its domain name if confused Yankee-doodles keep ending up here. :lol:
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Postby Grummy » 25 Jul 2012, 01:36

I'm trying to work out how the .co.uk suffix is too much for them to understand.

I'd understand if Brits went to the US version instead, it has the .com suffix, and new people may not realise the difference at first, but this way around?
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Re: Next gen Kinect: Microsoft hiring for fancy 3D imaging w

Postby Bubblebeard JS » 25 Jul 2012, 18:46

darkknight1234 wrote:Kinect was always a waste of time, and people bought into it due to hype and the fact that this is america.


Kinect has no original or unique game application

Its a glorified microphone and headset


Kinect has no original or unique game application??? are you mad???? orignal games?? hoe about not using a controller AT ALL for gaming???, navigating around thre dash bord film searches... voice comands in game... ring any bells?? name another Console that can do this?

cant be a waste of time if it as the fastest selling unit THAT year when it came out, i owned it, thought it was a great change and a different direction on gaming, mostly it worked pretty well, if you set it up properly, i did have a few issues ill admit mainly with the lag, but games like 'the Gun Stringer' and 'Steel Battalion' worked wonders for me and i loved them both each in there own way.
i have two kids and games like disney pixar rush and the disneyland adventures went down a storm with them...

i genuinely think tho that kinect is under-rated, for instance 'rise of nightmares' got a crap score by OXM, but i loved it, it worked really well probably because i took the time to set my unit up properly...

sory to bang on but i genuinely think that kinect deserves a better reputation that what its getting.

if they are hiring to make it better it can only be a step in the right direction.
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Postby bamozzy » 26 Jul 2012, 12:09

Bubblebeard JS wrote:
darkknight1234 wrote:Kinect was always a waste of time, and people bought into it due to hype and the fact that this is america.


Kinect has no original or unique game application

Its a glorified microphone and headset


Kinect has no original or unique game application??? are you mad???? orignal games?? hoe about not using a controller AT ALL for gaming???, navigating around thre dash bord film searches... voice comands in game... ring any bells?? name another Console that can do this?

cant be a waste of time if it as the fastest selling unit THAT year when it came out, i owned it, thought it was a great change and a different direction on gaming, mostly it worked pretty well, if you set it up properly, i did have a few issues ill admit mainly with the lag, but games like 'the Gun Stringer' and 'Steel Battalion' worked wonders for me and i loved them both each in there own way.
i have two kids and games like disney pixar rush and the disneyland adventures went down a storm with them...

i genuinely think tho that kinect is under-rated, for instance 'rise of nightmares' got a crap score by OXM, but i loved it, it worked really well probably because i took the time to set my unit up properly...

sory to bang on but i genuinely think that kinect deserves a better reputation that what its getting.

if they are hiring to make it better it can only be a step in the right direction.


I do agree that Kinect is very much under-rated and that if you set it up and calibrate it regularly it is very accurate.

My daughters were going to get a Wii as they really don't get on with controllers, not into 'games' but wanted some Dance and Fitness type 'games'. However after trying the Demo I downloaded of Dance Central 2 they are now interested in getting an Xbox with Kinect. Games of this nature are SO MUCH better on Kinect as it tracks the whole body - legs, arms, rotation of the torso etc - it can tell if you didn't do the on screen moves perfectly. Move and Wii only track a controller held usually in one hand but at best in two hands. It will never know what you as a person are doing, whether you are stood in the right positions (or even standing). Kinect is so clever at the moment it can tell how your body is 'changing' with its fitness games and it is only going to get better.

I had no issues with the responsiveness of Kinect when using it in Forza and found it equally as responsive as a controller in terms of steering etc. HOWEVER I prefer to have some feedback and touch in games like this. Holding a steering wheel and pressing pedals provides feedback to your body, Controllers provide the same - Triggers feel like Accelerators (and triggers on weapons in FPS games). That bit of resistance and feedback from an object held in your hands provides a much more immersive experience than waving your hands about in mid air. I have yet to see a hardcore' game that utilises Kinect well - the technology isn't the problem but the lack of quality games is.

I tried the demo of Rise of Nightmares and it really is poor from a graphical point of view - it could be an xbox (not 360) game! but the problem is with the games NOT Kinect! I have had no issues with its responsiveness or accuracy but then I took time to set it up and calibrated it regularly in different lighting conditions and it certainly helps and improves its ability to track you!
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