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Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby JCHN » 03 Jan 2013, 14:12

The dashboard, please god fix the dashboard. The new one is a load of bollocks to be honest, the constant adverts make it so slow to use, and actually prevents it from loading sometimes, which is incredibly irritating.
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Postby DarthTwitch » 03 Jan 2013, 14:13

Log's reaction to the dashboard ads volume is almost identical to mine.

Why do we need ads, by the way? I was under the impression M$ are richer than Jesus. Do they really need the revenue? There seems to be more and more ads with every update. What the f**k are we paying a Gold subscription for? I KNOW it's not the quality of the service. Are we paying to be advertised at?

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Postby Phenom Paradox » 03 Jan 2013, 14:17

I'd like to see an expanding of the friends list and party chat. I meet so many cool people online and you can only have 100 friends, it's stupid and annoying. Give us a party limit of 12 Microsoft. You can't get entire teams in a party chat and it's stupid to limit it to just 8.
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Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby Grummy » 03 Jan 2013, 14:25

Not specifically Xbox related, but what they sorely need to fix is the security system for your Live account/hotmail etc. I had significant problems last year trying to access the email address attached to my Gamertag because I couldn't remember my password, and the security details provided were over 10 years old, and I'd never needed to use them. The email address is a dead email, I only use it for my gamertag, so I had no recent activity to report to prove it was my own email address. I managed to get everything sorted out in the end, but on the 360, you use this email address and can choose auto sign in, meaning you never input your password. With the next gen coming up, we can assume that we will need to transfer our gamertag and all these details across to the new console, meaning we'll need to know our security details. Considering how screwed up their system is, there is the potential for a lot of people struggling to transfer their gamer tag across.


Also, though we won't be able to see it happen, they seriously need to work on making the hardware better and more resilient than the 360 which, lets face it, is pretty damn shoddy. In every previous generation I've had 1 console, only ever buying a 2nd if I wanted to upgrade in someway (I bough a PS slim with screen for example), I never NEEDED to buy another one because my current one died. I think I'm on my 4th Xbox 360 atm. I don't think people will tolerate that sort of crap a 2nd generation running.

Also, Skype integration NOW please, and this is key, make it so I can use Skype with people on PC etc as right now I use my laptop for it, which is fine, but I use my laptop for Skype whilst also gaming on my 360.

Whilst we're at it, please improve the quality of the headphones and particularly the wires which are frail as hell. I'd also love for IE to be implemented better, rather than being something I have to quit my game to load up, let it be a web browser within my game. I'm not saying every game should instill a web browsing animation, but let me call up IE from the guide button and use it whilst my game is still running if I need to. Again, right now I use a laptop for this, but it would be nice to just be able to do everything I need to via my Xbox.
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Re: Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby Lulz » 03 Jan 2013, 14:29

Get rid of the "pins" for hot listing games into a separate sub-folder on the home screen. Make a separate page so the hot-listed games are easily accessible from the off. To me, it just doesn't flow.

Also: RRP games on the GOD thing is ridiculous. Why would I pay £39.99 for a game that's already been out for over a year and is half price everywhere else?
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Re: Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby CunningSmile » 03 Jan 2013, 14:35

Grummy wrote:Not specifically Xbox related, but what they sorely need to fix is the security system for your Live account/hotmail etc. I had significant problems last year trying to access the email address attached to my Gamertag because I couldn't remember my password, and the security details provided were over 10 years old, and I'd never needed to use them. The email address is a dead email, I only use it for my gamertag, so I had no recent activity to report to prove it was my own email address. I managed to get everything sorted out in the end, but on the 360, you use this email address and can choose auto sign in, meaning you never input your password. With the next gen coming up, we can assume that we will need to transfer our gamertag and all these details across to the new console, meaning we'll need to know our security details. Considering how screwed up their system is, there is the potential for a lot of people struggling to transfer their gamer tag across.


Agreed. I actually got permenantly locked out of my original Gamertag as a result of this. The security question on my 10 year old account set up after spending hours in a bar and queuing to buy the original Xbox at midnight? Favorite Movie. How the hell do I know what my favorite movie was ten years ago when I was drunk? As I had a number of Xbox's and 360s and moved several times I couldn't provide IP addresses or serial numbers to their satisfaction so I never unlocked it :(
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Re: Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby Cougar BMX » 03 Jan 2013, 14:47

I'd have to agree with the first comment. My biggest bug bear by FAR is the speed of the dashboard as it is right now.
It takes an age to load at times at start up, and navigating through it can be likened to that other infamous past time of watching paint dry, at times.
Also it may be just me, but i find this particular incarnation of the dashboard one of the most annoying to navigate through and find stuff.

But again, that may just be me.....

I would assume its a given, however, that the dashboard on a new console is going to look and work differently to now, so i'm not overly concerned with how a new console will work in this respect..... yet.
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Postby SadCheesecake » 03 Jan 2013, 15:03

Definitely change the GoD prices. I recently got Black Ops 2, and I was surprised how much I liked it as I am more of a Battlefield fan. So I thought I would download Black Ops 1, thinking it would be cheap by now, but it's £45! I can get it for £15 at HMV. GoD is a complete rip of.
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Re: Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby ipsofacto » 03 Jan 2013, 15:05

Grummy wrote:Not specifically Xbox related, but what they sorely need to fix is the security system for your Live account/hotmail etc. I had significant problems last year trying to access the email address attached to my Gamertag because I couldn't remember my password, and the security details provided were over 10 years old, and I'd never needed to use them. The email address is a dead email, I only use it for my gamertag, so I had no recent activity to report to prove it was my own email address. I managed to get everything sorted out in the end, but on the 360, you use this email address and can choose auto sign in, meaning you never input your password. With the next gen coming up, we can assume that we will need to transfer our gamertag and all these details across to the new console, meaning we'll need to know our security details. Considering how screwed up their system is, there is the potential for a lot of people struggling to transfer their gamer tag across.


Oh yeah good point. I'll be having a lot of trouble then. I know my own password but my account was once a child account... a lot of years ago now. So the email address I set up for my mum was just for that. I don't know the password, she never knew it and I'm am certain that the account has been cancelled. I've contacted Microsoft many times to fix this but they can't do anything. It's so frustrating being 19 now and having a Child's account still!
In hindsight I never should have had one, but I was clueless with all of this stuff when I got it. Haha :lol:
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Re: Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby Thos. » 03 Jan 2013, 15:37

The cost of DLC and downloadable titles is purely down to the presumably vast number of fools with more money than sense who pay these stupid prices. If they weren't selling, the prices would drop overnight. You can download a library of PC games for a tiny fraction of the cost of the same titles on Xbox.

As for "It must be love..loo-ooove", that ad has ensured I now never navigate below the top line of buttons. Microsoft have successfully driven their users away from going anywhere near ads again.
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Re: Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby SkinnerChinner » 03 Jan 2013, 16:01

I've only ever downloaded a single GoD title, namely "Resident Evil 4 HD" - which I gather was classified as an on demand game (correct me if I'm wrong) due to the file size. There was that time I had the urge to play Bioshock again, I can easily get a new copy for less than £10 on Amazon, £15 on demand...then theres the p*** take price of Skyrim, £50 on demand where as a fair few retailers have it for around £20 - £25. I'd love to hear some justification for the ridiculously high prices (coincidence it seems to be the most popular titles that are the worst culprits?) rather than "that's our model & we're sticking to it" - you do that, I'll continue to stick to my conclusion it's a sodding rip off! :lol:
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Re: Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby SkinnerChinner » 03 Jan 2013, 16:15

Agreed. I actually got permenantly locked out of my original Gamertag as a result of this. The security question on my 10 year old account set up after spending hours in a bar and queuing to buy the original Xbox at midnight? Favorite Movie. How the hell do I know what my favorite movie was ten years ago when I was drunk? As I had a number of Xbox's and 360s and moved several times I couldn't provide IP addresses or serial numbers to their satisfaction so I never unlocked it :(


Did you try "Flash Gordon"? :lol:

I had the same problem, probably due to the amount of films I consider my favourites. Another pain in the a*** was with my brothers account - despite the fact he was well over the age limit, for some strange reason he couldn't play certain games online - was created with my e-mail as a parental contact, and despite changing details several times it never worked, ended up ditching it & opening up a new one.
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Re: Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby Gazisdaman » 03 Jan 2013, 16:19

I don't know about dashboard problems as I usually don't spend any time there but I do think that the marketplace needs serious work. Game releases on the marketplace on release, better pricing as games get older, special deals and promotion and good indie game support. Basically I want steam on Xbox.
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Re: Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby Bezza89 » 03 Jan 2013, 16:45

What problems can be solved next Jenny? Well, really, only framerates up to 60fps, display resolution up to at least 1080p, and doing everything like loading, saving a lot faster. Not only does the dashboard take forever these days (not even appearing sometimes) but skyrim takes years to load with the two expansions loaded in. Then there's the AI stuff, getting more routines going simultaneously, more complex ones, just MORE everything really, except ads and kinect.

These aren't things we need, but they'd be damn fine, but honestly don't really see what can be gained otherwise.
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Re: Seven problems we don't need a next gen Xbox to fix

Postby pascalrisi » 03 Jan 2013, 17:01

Is there a way to make it so that a game doesn't play when you switch the discs, because that's bloody annoying, as is all the separate apps for functions, if I see a trailer advertised on my dashboard, I should not have to download a video-player just to watch it when it worked fine a few years ago without.
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