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Postby ipsofacto » 16 Jan 2013, 15:30

Graphically, there just isn't as far to go. I think overall, with Illumiroom and other fancy new tech (like if it shipped with Kinect v2.0), the overall package would be just as much of a leap forward as last time.
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Postby Bezza89 » 16 Jan 2013, 15:45

I think that's what we're after, graphics are pretty special as they are, all they need is a higher resolution, better textures, better framerate and then we add all the AI routines and bits that make the worlds seem more real.
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Postby trapster » 16 Jan 2013, 16:46

mmm you say a higher resolution but how is that possible as a full HD tv can only display 1920x1080 max some pc monitors are way beyond that so i really dont get how the resolution is going to be more unless they are expecting everyone to go and get a 4k tv ?
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Postby msbhvn » 16 Jan 2013, 17:10

trapster wrote:mmm you say a higher resolution but how is that possible as a full HD tv can only display 1920x1080 max some pc monitors are way beyond that so i really dont get how the resolution is going to be more unless they are expecting everyone to go and get a 4k tv ?


The Xbox 360 doesn't render in 1080p. When you set it to 1080p, it's actually 720p upscaled. So true 1080p console gaming would be a leap forward.
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Postby xXPiperAlphaXx » 16 Jan 2013, 17:26

trapster wrote:mmm you say a higher resolution but how is that possible as a full HD tv can only display 1920x1080 max some pc monitors are way beyond that so i really dont get how the resolution is going to be more unless they are expecting everyone to go and get a 4k tv ?


Most games are rendered in 720p, with some even lower (Call Of Duty runs at 1024x600). This is down to the hardware and developers having to make sacrifices to keep the frame rate up.

More power=larger and higher resolution textures, better particle effects, depth of field effects, smoother framerates and all at a resolution twice what we have now.

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Postby Dawarka mystery » 16 Jan 2013, 18:18

ipsofacto wrote:Graphically, there just isn't as far to go. I think overall, with Illumiroom and other fancy new tech (like if it shipped with Kinect v2.0), the overall package would be just as much of a leap forward as last time.
I personally can't wait for a quiet cooling fan on mine. My current Xbox is so loud :(

I disagree. Next gen will be mind boggling.
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Postby Pompey78 » 16 Jan 2013, 22:13

I expect the next gen to be visually stunning but that it won't grab and hook me like this generation did over the previous. I think we will be getting to the point of close to CGI in some (lower end) films once the next gen matures, or at least I hope we will.

What I hope the next gen will bring to WOW me is better game immersion, better AI and a number of new ideas or products that will hook me and make it my new all in one box under the TV, assuming it is going to be a product that fits under the TV?

I hope that there are functions for the next xbox or playstation that I haven't even thought of yet....

3d game projection..
wireless charging ala some smartphones
ability to pause a game and transfer it to another device where you can pick it up again (sorry that's the Wii U)
some kind of deep social media integration where you don't have to come out of a game to post an update.
a 'dashboard' or interface that with kinect 2.0 recognises me and asks me what I want to play....

oh, just thought... how about NFC tech (is that the right term) in the device control pad or main console that detects that the game I brought and have already installed to hard drive is still in my possession (say it can detect the game within 20 square meters) and so I don't have to keep putting the disc in the tray to verify I still have it to play a game I own. Coupled with the intelligent interface that will ask me if I want to resume my last game of Halo 5 and I say yes and then it's on instantly with no need to put the disc in and say only a 3-5sec load if that :)

quite pleased with that one :)

and finally to be able to do something like in back to the future 2 where I can say bring up channels ITV1, SKY News, gamespot and COD live game stream channel and it then fits them all on the TV screen with selected audio from one of those. Oh and I think with more immersive games I think we will see more mainstream pro gamer leagues next gen and a return to good TV programmes covering the next gen game consoles and big competitve tournaments
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Postby Bedsidelee » 17 Jan 2013, 13:42

I already purchased a wii u but i don't think i will be buying the new Xbox 720 or the Ps4 , i will be giving this new gen a miss subsequently not as huge a leap that i might have anticipated !
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Postby SilentDark » 17 Jan 2013, 15:26

Create a compelling story with great characters and good gameplay and the graphics won't matter.

The one of the worst Eastern RPG of this generation was Final Fantasy XIII, nice HD graphics but a nonsensical story and linear gameplay, it was blown out of the water by Bioware's Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

The best Eastern RPG was Xenoblade Chronicles on the humble Wii, very nice looking for the Wii (probably better looking that some Xbox games, but I'm not going to start an argument about that) but certainly not up to the standard of graphics on anything decent on the 360 or PS3

Xenoblade had better characters, a better story, heck, even better voice acting, one of the last great games on the Wii. But my point is, nice graphics are nice, just don't let it overwhelm everything else and put out a pretty but substandard game.

I suppose that is stating the obvious but just thought I'd say it anyway.
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Postby CunningSmile » 17 Jan 2013, 15:40

SilentDark wrote:Create a compelling story with great characters and good gameplay and the graphics won't matter.

The one of the worst Eastern RPG of this generation was Final Fantasy XIII, nice HD graphics but a nonsensical story and linear gameplay, it was blown out of the water by Bioware's Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

The best Eastern RPG was Xenoblade Chronicles on the humble Wii, very nice looking for the Wii (probably better looking that some Xbox games, but I'm not going to start an argument about that) but certainly not up to the standard of graphics on anything decent on the 360 or PS3

Xenoblade had better characters, a better story, heck, even better voice acting, one of the last great games on the Wii. But my point is, nice graphics are nice, just don't let it overwhelm everything else and put out a pretty but substandard game.

I suppose that is stating the obvious but just thought I'd say it anyway.


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Postby FishyGinger » 17 Jan 2013, 16:08

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Postby xXPiperAlphaXx » 17 Jan 2013, 16:35

SilentDark wrote: But my point is, nice graphics are nice, just don't let it overwhelm everything else.....


In the words of Queen "I want it all! (and I want it now!)"

Great graphics can go hand in hand with great gameplay. Just look at Dragon's Lair (1983). Oh actually.......don't.

What I want from the next gen is for the console's capabilities to allow us to play games that aren't possible now. Loads more interactive people/environments/destructible environments/better physics in general. Not just prettier, shinier things but new possibilities because of more processing grunt.
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Postby FishyGinger » 17 Jan 2013, 17:58

xXPiperAlphaXx wrote:
SilentDark wrote: But my point is, nice graphics are nice, just don't let it overwhelm everything else.....


In the words of Queen "I want it all! (and I want it now!)"

Great graphics can go hand in hand with great gameplay. Just look at Dragon's Lair (1983). Oh actually.......don't.

What I want from the next gen is for the console's capabilities to allow us to play games that aren't possible now. Loads more interactive people/environments/destructible environments/better physics in general. Not just prettier, shinier things but new possibilities because of more processing grunt.


I just can't see it happening. I reckon costs would get too high at a time when developers are already going out of business.
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Postby SilentDark » 18 Jan 2013, 00:17

xXPiperAlphaXx wrote:
SilentDark wrote: But my point is, nice graphics are nice, just don't let it overwhelm everything else.....


In the words of Queen "I want it all! (and I want it now!)"

Great graphics can go hand in hand with great gameplay. Just look at Dragon's Lair (1983). Oh actually.......don't.

What I want from the next gen is for the console's capabilities to allow us to play games that aren't possible now. Loads more interactive people/environments/destructible environments/better physics in general. Not just prettier, shinier things but new possibilities because of more processing grunt.


You make my point with Dragon`s Lair. Pretty but ultimately dull. Let me bring up FMV games. Cutting edge technology at the time, new and exciting for the developers but they focused so much time and effort on the FMV sequences that the quality of the games suffered. While Mass Effect and Dragon Age are great franchises they still don`t hold a candle to Baldur`s Gate. The second one in particular gets everything just right, wonderful characters I really care about, an epic story and compelling gameplay all of which has me still playing the game to this day. Great graphics are all well and good but a well crafted game can overcome graphical limitations and stand the test of time.
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Postby wane » 18 Jan 2013, 11:19

The headline of this article is different to what the Dragon Age artist had said...
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