Johnbhoy69 wrote:The sad thing is that we who see the COD franchise for what it really is, A lazy cash grab that hasn't changed since COD 4 Modern Warfare in 2007, are in the minority. These games will continue to to sell by the sh*tload and continue to ruin the FPS genre for years to come.
CoreyJLees wrote:Johnbhoy69 wrote:The sad thing is that we who see the COD franchise for what it really is, A lazy cash grab that hasn't changed since COD 4 Modern Warfare in 2007, are in the minority. These games will continue to to sell by the sh*tload and continue to ruin the FPS genre for years to come.
It's amazing how a few words can make the same phrase mean completely different things. "Lazy cash grab", or, "successful franchise". They got the formula so spot on it barely needs changing, there are no huge changes that can be brought about until new hardware comes along so what exactly are you expecting? You don't change a game for the sake of changing a game, if somethings not broken it doesn't need fixing, a point none of you braindead imps seem to realise.
I'd love to hear what exactly the Call of Duty franchise has done to ruin the FPS genre. Explain because I can guarantee it's complete bullshit.
I'm not even a huge fan of Call of Duty I'm just not an ignorant moron.
Everyone was expecting us to make Modern Warfare 4, which would have been to safe thing to do
What formula are you talking about exactly? Shoot wave after wave of enemies then move on the next area and do the same while occasionally placing some C4 or operating a Predator drone, Then repeat that process for the next 6 years.
Or maybe you mean hiring a load of 'super cool celebrities' to advertise/star in the games,spending more money on those things than the development of the game itself.
Or how 90% of the campaign is all set pieces that you barely get to have any control of before you have to shoot more waves of enemies.
Or that the campaigns are so short and after the Fantastic COD 4 Modern Warfare they haven't been able to reach that level of story telling since.
Its ruined the FPS franchise due to complete over saturation of the market and other media, Intelligent people can only take having something thrown in their faces year after year before they get completely sick of it and lose interest completely. And Unintelligent people, well...
Johnbhoy69 wrote:This is an action/shooter game, go play Skyrim or LA Noire if you want storytelling, because, believe it or not, "shooters" are focused around "shooting" things. There doesn't have to be an insane plot for a game to be good
Maybe intricate stories confuse you, its ok just enjoy the mindless shooting, wave after wave after wave. Wouldn't want your delicate mind to overheat now would we.
''There are plenty of films that have no merit other than the special effects and action sequences but people love them anyway because its a spectacle''
Admitting by comparison that these games have no merit other than special effects and action sequences but still you defend it? You must think Michael Bay movies are Oscar worthy masterpieces of film making then.
If anyone is the sad act child it is you, As by adamantly defending COD so much you have contradicted yourself and also ''outed'' yourself as a bit of fanboy with a full on throbber for COD
I'm not even a huge fan of Call of Duty
It has ruined FPS, I used to love these types of games, dating back to Goldeneye on the N64. Now they are, as we have both said all special effects and set piece based. Which you seem to think is something to praise I on the other hand feel games that focus on flashy effects and set pieces should be condemned for hiding their simplistic, linear and uber repetitive gameplay behind explosions, plane crashes and more explosions...Lazy developers and money grabbing publishers. Activisions new motto should be ''Minimum effort Maximum Profit''
CoreyJLees wrote:You sir, are the equivalent of a brick wall.
When did I say intricate plots confuse me? Never. I simply stated that mindless action has its place, because its fun, its entertaining, as entertainment should be. I love a good complex game and nothing thrills me more than playing through a game where anything can and will happen, and which makes you really work to get there. I'm just not solely devoted to these games and can perfectly enjoy the flash and pomp of a Call of Duty game aswell.
"Admitting by comparison that these games have no merit other than special effects and action sequences but still you defend it? You must think Michael Bay movies are Oscar worthy masterpieces of film making then."
I stand by that, these games have no merit beyond the outrageous overdone battle sequences but that's what I like about them, not every game has to be serious. How dare they make Minecraft? It's hardly a representation of building and mining, how dare they? To think people might enjoy something simple and fun instead of being a serious, thoughtful representation of its subject matter? SHOCK HORROR! And no, I don't think films like Michael Bays are worthy of any accolades at all, because its mindless fun entertainment, and everyone enjoys this from time to time, anyone who isn't a massive snob of course and thinks it's beneath them (you, obviously).
"It has ruined FPS, I used to love these types of games, dating back to Goldeneye on the N64. Now they are, as we have both said all special effects and set piece based."
I never said that at all. I said the COD games are, and why not? There's room for a little special effects and set pieces, there are thousands of games out there that never go within a hundred miles of this formula, which take themselves seriously and that's fine. I just hate horrible stuck up arseholes like you who think because you don't have to think to play a game that its a pile of shite.
"I on the other hand feel games that focus on flashy effects and set pieces should be condemned for hiding their simplistic, linear and uber repetitive gameplay"
Good for you. If you don't like it, don't play COD. Its beyond comprehension that you even care. It shows a complete lack of understanding, tolerance, and frankly, quite an outrageous self centred outlook. Just because you don't like it, its shit? That's possibly the most ignorant thing you could have said, and it pretty much automatically renders your "opinion" unworthy of credibility.
By trying to make yourself seem intelligent and "above" me, you've just come across as an ignorant, self centred little snob. I was rather hoping someone at last might be able to give me some actual points as to the negativity COD receives but no, I'm faced with yet another idiot who simply doesn't like COD. You can't be taken seriously at all, your uppity "holier than thou" attitude is worse than disgusting and it is in fact people like you who are ruining games, not COD.
Is it any wonder the games industry is highly regarded as infantile when there's idiots like you going round forums declaring a franchise being terrible and ruinous to the industry simply because you don't like it. Pull your head out of your arse and stop being so offended just because a game you don't like consistently tops the charts, and go play something else to take your fragile little mind off how awful Call of Duty is. You are not worth the time or bother, intelligent conversation is clearly not going to occur here so enjoy your hate fuelled days of ignorance and self importance.
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