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Do videogames cause violence? Why the scientists are failing

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Dan investigates a long-running and frustrating debate

Of all the people to claim fictitious violence causes real violence, Commando's John Matrix seems on the shakiest ground. But it was Arnold Schwarzenegger, then Governor of California, who backed a claim to the highest court of America that videogames increase aggression, cause neurological damage and more, and called for a bill restricting access to them for minors. The application pointed to a huge corpus of peer-reviewed scientific evidence.... read more

Do videogames cause violence? Why the scientists are failing

Postby xUKDrAGoNBorN » 17 Aug 2013, 13:30

so basically they want to blame something that a lot of people like and video games are more popular than ever and the people who committed that crime are usually mentally unstable and because they play violent games the video game industry gets blamed and with current tv and movies do not get blamed we have films like saw and so many tv shows are violent and i found this about tv in america


An average American child will see 200,000 violent acts and 16,000 murders on TV by age 18 Two-thirds of all programming contains violence Programs designed for children more often contain violence than adult TV
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Postby phillip beasley » 17 Aug 2013, 13:57

insert 6 page comment as to why this is a stupid subject im sorry i could go on but there seems to be no point :!:
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Postby Metalrodent » 17 Aug 2013, 14:01

phillip beasley wrote:insert 6 page comment as to why this is a stupid subject im sorry i could go on but there seems to be no point :!:

yeah, who the hell needs research and proper investigation into a serious modern social issue, I mean we should just let all the newspapers win and all be sent to jail as future serial killers
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Postby lazercut123 » 17 Aug 2013, 14:04

@dragonborn

What you're saying may be true, but you could better get your poin across if you USED PUNCTUATION. :shock:

It seems like half my comments are either correcting people or telling them off, if so, I'm sorry :cry:
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Postby TippiestRook99 » 17 Aug 2013, 14:06

lazercut123 wrote:@dragonborn

What you're saying may be true, but you could better get your poin across if you USED PUNCTUATION. :shock:

It seems like half my comments are either correcting people or telling them off, if so, I'm sorry :cry:

Point.
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Postby lazercut123 » 17 Aug 2013, 14:15

That's irony for you/me. :oops:
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Postby phillip beasley » 17 Aug 2013, 14:27

Metalrodent wrote:
phillip beasley wrote:insert 6 page comment as to why this is a stupid subject im sorry i could go on but there seems to be no point :!:

yeah, who the hell needs research and proper investigation into a serious modern social issue, I mean we should just let all the newspapers win and all be sent to jail as future serial killers


Proper research into what?. Is violent media to blame for WW1 and WW2 or maybe the crusades and witches hammer or maybe what is happening in Africa today in which the world seems to be blind too or does not care!. I could go on and on but im sure you get the point, its easy to blame something we don't understand than it is to blame society in general. I have played violent computer games for years now and have never acted violent towards anyone!. My son has played violent games like COD, Gears and so on and is a high grade pupil and has high grade too, i myself work pay my taxes, obey the law and am a good member of my community too so im confused as to why this is a subject the is still being a thorn in the side of video game?.
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Postby captainhetty » 17 Aug 2013, 14:30

Only if you're very, very easily influenced and/or prone to violent behaviour in the first place, and in that case any other media is just as likely to 'cause' violence as a video game.
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Postby lazercut123 » 17 Aug 2013, 14:30

I think we need a mod to help sort this out. :twisted:
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Postby xUKDrAGoNBorN » 17 Aug 2013, 14:43

lazercut123 wrote:@dragonborn

What you're saying may be true, but you could better get your poin across if you USED PUNCTUATION. :shock:

It seems like half my comments are either correcting people or telling them off, if so, I'm sorry :cry:

its fine i know i need punctuation but that the one thing i always struggled with
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Postby captainhetty » 17 Aug 2013, 14:49

xUKDrAGoNBorN wrote:its fine i know i need punctuation but that the one thing i always struggled with


It's not the end of the world, don't worry. Plenty of people struggle with punctuation and spelling, and unfortunately just as many people have far too much time on their hands and like to sit correcting people on the internet ^_^
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Postby CSCS » 17 Aug 2013, 15:03

The gamers playing Mortal Kombat on a Friday night aren't likely to go out and start beating people up and decapitating people after their matches.

The people downtown binge drinking on a Friday are more statistically likely to get into fights or trouble with the law though but everyone picks on the gamers because they are an easy target.
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Postby Metalrodent » 17 Aug 2013, 15:06

phillip beasley wrote:Proper research into what?. Is violent media to blame for WW1 and WW2 or maybe the crusades and witches hammer or maybe what is happening in Africa today in which the world seems to be blind too or does not care!. I could go on and on but im sure you get the point, its easy to blame something we don't understand than it is to blame society in general. I have played violent computer games for years now and have never acted violent towards anyone!. My son has played violent games like COD, Gears and so on and is a high grade pupil and has high grade too, i myself work pay my taxes, obey the law and am a good member of my community too so im confused as to why this is a subject the is still being a thorn in the side of video game?.

... I was making a point, I'm on the side that videogames don't cause violence. What I was saying is that we need research that shows that they do not cause violence among most people (there will always be weirdos sadly).
However I am still not sure that young kids should play violent media (not a personal comment so you know, just my opinion in general, it will always vary on the kid and the parents attitude)
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Postby CunningSmile » 17 Aug 2013, 15:06

phillip beasley wrote:
Proper research into what?. Is violent media to blame for WW1 and WW2 or maybe the crusades and witches hammer or maybe what is happening in Africa today in which the world seems to be blind too or does not care!. I could go on and on but im sure you get the point, its easy to blame something we don't understand than it is to blame society in general. I have played violent computer games for years now and have never acted violent towards anyone!. My son has played violent games like COD, Gears and so on and is a high grade pupil and has high grade too, i myself work pay my taxes, obey the law and am a good member of my community too so im confused as to why this is a subject the is still being a thorn in the side of video game?.

You are operating from a logical fallacy I really hate in debates that because A existed before B, B can not in anyway cause A. Yes violence existed before computer games. However it is a fallacy to then assume that it is impossible for computer games to lead to violence as it over looks the simple fact people do things for different reasons. By your logic paedophilia existed prior to photography so we shouldn't bother doing any research or taking steps to prevent child pornography.

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Postby Bezza89 » 17 Aug 2013, 15:10

Hey people, just a quick reminder of semantics, it's not correct to say video games cause violence, but it's naïve to suggest they are not an influence for some peoples violent behaviour, and further research in any area is always welcome, thanks.

*If videogames caused violence, you'd play a videogame and be violent.

Edit; I have reedited this so much... I'm done, have at that.
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