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Gentlemen! Ladies! I return from the internet's upper slopes with a dire and deadly warning: accrue more than $2,147,483,647 in Grand Theft Auto 5, and you'll find yourself billions of dollars in debt. As discovered by NeoGAF user OmegaDL50, there's a tricksy bit of underlying arithmetic that converts numbers to negative once they spill beyond a certain threshold.... read more

A little GTA 5 tip: don't earn more than $2.147 billion unle

Postby Johnbhoy69 » 30 Sep 2013, 14:54

How would you even make that much? The heists pay pittance until the final one and income from properties isn't anything staggering.
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Postby OXM ETboy » 30 Sep 2013, 14:55

Check out the dude's post.
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Postby Ryan Shearer » 30 Sep 2013, 14:57

Johnbhoy69 wrote:How would you even make that much? The heists pay pittance until the final one and income from properties isn't anything staggering.


Stock market.
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Postby PCG The_B » 30 Sep 2013, 14:58

Johnbhoy69 wrote:How would you even make that much? The heists pay pittance until the final one and income from properties isn't anything staggering.

Playing the stock market well, mostly.

I'm not great at maths either but I do vaguely remember integers being something to do with absolutely whole numbers - so decimals and fractions are not integers. No idea specifically how that applies in this context though.
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Postby LethalBuddha » 30 Sep 2013, 15:15

Johnbhoy69 wrote:How would you even make that much? The heists tpay pittance until the final one and income from properties isn't anything staggering.

If you complete the main story before doing the missions for Lester you'll have around $26,000,000 to put on the rival shares, Lester's missions influence the market the most with some companies going up as much as 50 points. I'm currently on $882,000,000. 8)
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Postby PonderingWalrus » 30 Sep 2013, 15:15

PCG The_B wrote:
Johnbhoy69 wrote:How would you even make that much? The heists pay pittance until the final one and income from properties isn't anything staggering.

Playing the stock market well, mostly.

I'm not great at maths either but I do vaguely remember integers being something to do with absolutely whole numbers - so decimals and fractions are not integers. No idea specifically how that applies in this context though.


Yep. An integer is indeed a whole number. Simples...
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Postby PonderingWalrus » 30 Sep 2013, 15:29

If anybody is interested in the science-tastic part of this it's basically all to do with how binary numbers work.

Your money is stored in a 32-bit binary number and, because of the way binary works the maximum positive integer it can hold is when all the bits apart from the first one (which is used to indicate if the number is positive or negative) are active. The binary number in question (01111111 11111111 11111111 11111111) has a decimal value of 2147483647.

If all the bits are active (giving you 11111111 11111111 11111111 11111111) then the decimal value of the number will be -2147483647.

Essentially when the first bit becomes active, that large amount of cash you have accumulated becomes a negative. Hypothetically speaking, if you could lose just $1 when you have $-2147483647 you would be back on $2147483647; although I am not sure if or how this would be possible.

Not sure if I have explained it that well but there you have it. :mrgreen:
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Postby CunningSmile » 30 Sep 2013, 15:40

a thousand or a million times (depending on whether you accept the British or American definition of a "billion"),


Money is almost always dealt with using the US billion. Guess its as a result of them having the largest economy and getting to call the shots.

On the plus side it does mean that by giving you that piece of information I've just massively reduced the countries deficit as far as everyone is concerned :lol:
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Postby StrallySam » 30 Sep 2013, 17:35

Thats too much money it needs to be invested in properties aswell as spend and keep spending
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Re: A little GTA 5 tip: don't earn more than $2.147 billion

Postby Damian Greiner » 03 Oct 2013, 01:44

PonderingWalrus wrote:If anybody is interested in the science-tastic part of this it's basically all to do with how binary numbers work.

Your money is stored in a 32-bit binary number and, because of the way binary works the maximum positive integer it can hold is when all the bits apart from the first one (which is used to indicate if the number is positive or negative) are active. The binary number in question (01111111 11111111 11111111 11111111) has a decimal value of 2147483647.

If all the bits are active (giving you 11111111 11111111 11111111 11111111) then the decimal value of the number will be -2147483647.

Essentially when the first bit becomes active, that large amount of cash you have accumulated becomes a negative. Hypothetically speaking, if you could lose just $1 when you have $-2147483647 you would be back on $2147483647; although I am not sure if or how this would be possible.

Not sure if I have explained it that well but there you have it. :mrgreen:



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